tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30984739.post5220074387287327474..comments2023-10-01T14:37:09.159+01:00Comments on Maysaloon - ميسلون: The end of the "-isms" in Middle Eastern PoliticsMaysaloonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06826378383173206624noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30984739.post-62502458611504021252007-11-04T23:47:00.000+00:002007-11-04T23:47:00.000+00:00Demacebne George, I would appreciate it if you ela...Demacebne George, I would appreciate it if you elaborated on your views regarding the definition of Arab world and why you disagree with meG.Garhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16573287809747571814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30984739.post-50212187729278681952007-11-04T17:19:00.000+00:002007-11-04T17:19:00.000+00:00Welcome Damascene George. I too am enjoying this e...Welcome Damascene George. I too am enjoying this exchange :)Maysaloonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06826378383173206624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30984739.post-64579753753917732262007-11-04T17:03:00.000+00:002007-11-04T17:03:00.000+00:00"Definetly I dont disagree with you. Egypt and Syr..."Definetly I dont disagree with you. Egypt and Syria are parts of the Arab world which is the source of 75% of whatever makes up human existance.".<BR/>Amre every single word in this sentence is the opposite of my ideas ;-) so you do disagree with me.<BR/>But I'm enjoying this anyways!Damascene Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01790283596401173303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30984739.post-17979537888672460572007-11-04T15:24:00.000+00:002007-11-04T15:24:00.000+00:00Definetly I dont disagree with you. Egypt and Syri...Definetly I dont disagree with you. Egypt and Syria are parts of the Arab world which is the source of 75% of whatever makes up human existance. Syrinas, Iraqis ,Egyptians, Yemenses, Penniula Arabs formulated Christianity, Islam, Judaism, consience, state. They have been the centre of innovation and civisation throughout the entire history of humanity, except during the era of the Greco-Roman Persian colonialism, later on the Arabs fulfilled their destiny and braught together the Arab world where the elemnts in common among Arab enteties surpass those among the diffrent chinese provinces or Indian states.unfortunately, Arabs lost power again to turkish mongols and persians; Thus they fell behind their rivals in the west.<BR/><BR/>I wish I could see a day when I could say that my nationality is Arab while my province is Egypt. However, It is not wise nor is it pragamatic to say so at the present. the best I could look forward to at the present is minimal level of cordination, and a united solid front against all foreignersG.Garhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16573287809747571814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30984739.post-22154229349096173692007-11-04T00:51:00.000+00:002007-11-04T00:51:00.000+00:00Amre, I'm not gonna go into the details of Egypt's...Amre, I'm not gonna go into the details of Egypt's economics cause I know nothing about it. <BR/>But when you say:<BR/>"Egypt is very coherent structured body that has a natural tendency towords civilisation due to the dynamcis embeded in the internal fabric of Egypt."<BR/>That's pretty a cliché that every damn other country out there uses. I continuously hear both Syrian nationals and Arab nationals using this argument when talking about Syria / The Arab world respectively.Damascene Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01790283596401173303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30984739.post-78928534661350193232007-11-02T20:29:00.000+00:002007-11-02T20:29:00.000+00:00what a ravenous rantwhat a ravenous rantLirunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165940866092660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30984739.post-61886829141531812772007-11-02T14:00:00.000+00:002007-11-02T14:00:00.000+00:00I forgot to mention, the bombs dropped on civil ta...I forgot to mention, the bombs dropped on civil targets inside Egypt during the victorious war of attrition from 1969 to 1970 which forced Israel to deman sieze fire for the first time in its history were equal to heroshima in terms of fire powerG.Garhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16573287809747571814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30984739.post-5028007942955709432007-11-02T13:52:00.000+00:002007-11-02T13:52:00.000+00:00"since he was the ruler of Egypt, an impoverished ..."since he was the ruler of Egypt, an impoverished country with no natural resources"<BR/><BR/>Egypt an impioverished nation, indeed funny!!!<BR/><BR/>world bank report no 761 issued in 1976, stated that development in Egypt during th sixties was examplatory for third world nations! We had an economic growth rate from 1956 to 1967 of 6% compared to 2.5% of china! and that was mirculous by the standards of the time. <BR/><BR/>Egypt was going to surpass china according economic analysts of the time. Something had to be done about it. And that was dragging her out of her borders before she is mature enough. SYRIA AND YEMN WERE THE POINTS WHERE OUR ENEMIES HARPOONED US<BR/> <BR/>Egyptians indeginously developed Cairo300 a supersonic aircraft that was equivalent to the Mirrage, a version of th air craft is found in th Berlin aviation musium. <BR/>Egyptian pound in the fifties was equal to sterlainpound in buying power! that was in 1966<BR/><BR/>Henry Kessinger in th diaries mentioned that, Egyptian industrial development in the sixties which wa directed to serve military purposes was going o make break throughs in space and aviation technologies.<BR/><BR/>Egyptians of Mohamed Ali crushed the Turks and put their heads in mud.Egypt in no time over took Europe. They all- Russia, England- France, Prusia UNITED and destroyed our rennaisance in 1840. What is worse th Arabs who we liberated from the Turkish stupidity joined th ottomans against us!!!!!!<BR/><BR/>Egypt modernisd Arabic language and instigated the first progressive wave in Arab world after 1000 years of Persian and Turkish backward dominance<BR/><BR/><BR/>even now when Egypt is at its worst we have a GDP per captica more or less close to the big resourceful oil country like Iran. And in terms of technological maturity we are 20 TWENTY YEARS AHEA OF iRAN.<BR/><BR/>It is enough to mention that the North kOREAN MISSILES SHOCUS POKUS WITH WHICH IRANIS ARE FOOLING NAIVE PEOPLE IS TOTALLY BASED ON Egyptian technologies tranfered to North Korea so as to escape American pressure and to get around th Russian harrasment in 1975.<BR/><BR/>What is Ironic that despite of our hardships and the American containment. We have the most lethal conventional and non convenntional arsenal in the middle east. Israelians know very well. CHECK Javee centre, TEL AVIC CENTRRE OF STRATEGIC STUDIES.<BR/><BR/>Alas our economy cant endure a war with Israel- The American aircrafts carrier in the middle east.Although our most profiecent Nato standards army can very well o the job<BR/><BR/>We will never commit the same mistakes gain. We wont go out untill we have grown up. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Given that Egypt with no resources, it endured 6 SIX WARS IN 25 YEARS!!!!IN 1956 EGYPT WAS TOTALLY WRECKED, YET WE ROSE UP AGAIN. DESPITE OF OUR HARDSHIPS WE SPENT THE GOLD COVER OF OUR POUND TO CONVERT YEMN INTO A COUNTRY LIKE THE REST OF COUNTRIES, GIVEN THAT IT WAS RULED BY SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE M CONTEMPORARY IRANI REGIME<BR/><BR/> think that tells about the difference in quality of human being between Egyptians and th rest of the scum in the middle east ( ARBS NOT INCLUDD IN THE SCUM CATEGORY, EXCEPT TRAITORS).<BR/><BR/><BR/>Egypt is very coherent structured body that has a natural tendency towords civilisation due to the dynamcis embeded in the internal fabric of Egypt.<BR/><BR/>However, Eversince the PHAROAHS EGYPT'S DESTINY IS LINKED TO TH PHAROAH. A characteristic of all highluy sophisticated civilisations like china which is much lesser than Egypt in almost all aspects.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, the majority of Egyptians now hit their heads with old shoes and say" we were the masters of the east" look what th Arab causes have brought to us. I dont agree though, because I see very clearly the common enemy- and the fact that Arab region is noe region whith common enmies- IRAN AND ISRAELG.Garhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16573287809747571814noreply@blogger.com